So the question is, what penalty is fair to offer? the reason i pitched the crim system is it worked for UO perfectly. kept the end game players happy and full of blood and loot. but it also stopped them from entering towns and other popular pit stops due to openly being able to be demolished until ...

Now there is an idea i can get behind

I like the idea except where guildies would be the onces to accept the quest and take the KSs

@killa - the issue comes from 25s having ZERO reason not to PK. All the danger lies in leveling. Remember hearing all actions have consequenses? Well 25ers have no consequense to killing people.

It was with Scytso. ill try to get some data for ya next time we are both on.

criminals would only be dinied acces to safe zones until crim time(90seconds?) wears off. you could set a line of code while attacking to determine if the person attacked was innocent with if commands. stat loss would on apply for heavy PKs.

think on it like this: blue = innocent you can openly attack greys and reds. grey = criminal you attacked an innocent player and have recieved this status for X seconds/minutes. red = murderer you can openly be attacked anywhere(even town!) could make a town just to safely harbor murderers? go into ...

Like last night, we were able to PK BroHoods lowbies with zero reprecussion. This needs to be fixed. there is no downside to PKing, and there should be. or do something like if you kill more than X number of people, you got into statloss temporarily for an hour per kill, and only resets when you die.

Or add a criminal system. if you flag someone in PvP you cant reenter town for so long, and being attacked would restart timer. would obviously need roads going around certain towns added, but would help and create the threat of retaliation.

Not a formal complaint, just maybe something to look into. Would like to hear input from Freakazoid, Doom, and Geoff on the subject as well.