Thanks for all the hard work on the latest update NH!

You mention in the Dev Log that Druid Agi/Str calcs have been slightly adjusted per Wis point as part of update 1.6.3.0. In light of recent wisdom and race changes and the fact Druids will need to re-alloc stats, are you able to share the revised formulas (for bear and cat form) to help player decision-making?

Many thanks.

## Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

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### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

CAT // Wisdom: 16 - Agi Bonus: 1.5 -- Str Bonus: 5.8 -- AC Bonus: 24

CAT // Wisdom: 17 - Agi Bonus: 1.8 -- Str Bonus: 7.2 -- AC Bonus: 26

CAT // Wisdom: 18 - Agi Bonus: 2 -- Str Bonus: 8.8 -- AC Bonus: 27

CAT // Wisdom: 19 - Agi Bonus: 2.3 -- Str Bonus: 10.7 -- AC Bonus: 29

CAT // Wisdom: 20 - Agi Bonus: 2.6 -- Str Bonus: 12.8 -- AC Bonus: 30

CAT // Wisdom: 21 - Agi Bonus: 2.8 -- Str Bonus: 15.3 -- AC Bonus: 32

CAT // Wisdom: 22 - Agi Bonus: 3.1 -- Str Bonus: 18 -- AC Bonus: 33

BEAR // Wisdom: 16 - Agi Bonus: 0.8 -- Str Bonus: 4.7 -- AC Bonus: 43 -- END Bonus: 2.3

BEAR // Wisdom: 17 - Agi Bonus: 0.9 -- Str Bonus: 5.8 -- AC Bonus: 45 -- END Bonus: 2.5

BEAR // Wisdom: 18 - Agi Bonus: 1 -- Str Bonus: 7.1 -- AC Bonus: 47 -- END Bonus: 2.7

BEAR // Wisdom: 19 - Agi Bonus: 1.1 -- Str Bonus: 8.5 -- AC Bonus: 49 -- END Bonus: 3

BEAR // Wisdom: 20 - Agi Bonus: 1.3 -- Str Bonus: 10.3 -- AC Bonus: 51 -- END Bonus: 3.2

BEAR // Wisdom: 21 - Agi Bonus: 1.4 -- Str Bonus: 12.2 -- AC Bonus: 53 -- END Bonus: 3.5

BEAR // Wisdom: 22 - Agi Bonus: 1.5 -- Str Bonus: 14.4 -- AC Bonus: 55 -- END Bonus: 3.8

You gotta add that to your STR/AGI but it should give you the proper amounts. And just to state cat form you have 30% less resists (multiplied. So if your resists are 64% then its 64*0.7).. Bear is 15% less resists. Bear gets /roar though which is similar to a weaker taunt, also gives damage reduction now though.

CAT // Wisdom: 17 - Agi Bonus: 1.8 -- Str Bonus: 7.2 -- AC Bonus: 26

CAT // Wisdom: 18 - Agi Bonus: 2 -- Str Bonus: 8.8 -- AC Bonus: 27

CAT // Wisdom: 19 - Agi Bonus: 2.3 -- Str Bonus: 10.7 -- AC Bonus: 29

CAT // Wisdom: 20 - Agi Bonus: 2.6 -- Str Bonus: 12.8 -- AC Bonus: 30

CAT // Wisdom: 21 - Agi Bonus: 2.8 -- Str Bonus: 15.3 -- AC Bonus: 32

CAT // Wisdom: 22 - Agi Bonus: 3.1 -- Str Bonus: 18 -- AC Bonus: 33

BEAR // Wisdom: 16 - Agi Bonus: 0.8 -- Str Bonus: 4.7 -- AC Bonus: 43 -- END Bonus: 2.3

BEAR // Wisdom: 17 - Agi Bonus: 0.9 -- Str Bonus: 5.8 -- AC Bonus: 45 -- END Bonus: 2.5

BEAR // Wisdom: 18 - Agi Bonus: 1 -- Str Bonus: 7.1 -- AC Bonus: 47 -- END Bonus: 2.7

BEAR // Wisdom: 19 - Agi Bonus: 1.1 -- Str Bonus: 8.5 -- AC Bonus: 49 -- END Bonus: 3

BEAR // Wisdom: 20 - Agi Bonus: 1.3 -- Str Bonus: 10.3 -- AC Bonus: 51 -- END Bonus: 3.2

BEAR // Wisdom: 21 - Agi Bonus: 1.4 -- Str Bonus: 12.2 -- AC Bonus: 53 -- END Bonus: 3.5

BEAR // Wisdom: 22 - Agi Bonus: 1.5 -- Str Bonus: 14.4 -- AC Bonus: 55 -- END Bonus: 3.8

You gotta add that to your STR/AGI but it should give you the proper amounts. And just to state cat form you have 30% less resists (multiplied. So if your resists are 64% then its 64*0.7).. Bear is 15% less resists. Bear gets /roar though which is similar to a weaker taunt, also gives damage reduction now though.

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

Thanks NH!

Just to confirm that bear form now gets the same Str bonus as cat form (not less)?

Chrs

Just to confirm that bear form now gets the same Str bonus as cat form (not less)?

Chrs

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

Oh piss. that's wrong. It actually does right now but it's not meant too. Thanks for spotting that, I will grab the proper values in a second.

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

Updated. It should be how it was originally vs cat, which is 80% gain. Doesn\t mean 80% damage though, just the boost itself. Someone with a proper purple hammer for example with 16str base and 22 wis, then 34 str cat vs 30.4 str bear would be 174 to 230 vs 158 to 209, with div of course.

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

Ah ok thanks. So basically it seems like Str/AC boosts produce relatively similar results to before and the Agi boosts took abit of a hit for all Druids.

Eg If I remember correctly a max Agi/Wis elemental Druid had 22.8 Agi in cat and a max Agi/Wis elf Druid had 25 Agi in cat.... With these new Agi boosts, the max Agi/Wis elemental Druid will have 19+3.1=22.1 Agi in cat and the max Agi/Wis elf Druid will have 22+2.6=24.6 Agi in cat.

Does this sound about right?

Eg If I remember correctly a max Agi/Wis elemental Druid had 22.8 Agi in cat and a max Agi/Wis elf Druid had 25 Agi in cat.... With these new Agi boosts, the max Agi/Wis elemental Druid will have 19+3.1=22.1 Agi in cat and the max Agi/Wis elf Druid will have 22+2.6=24.6 Agi in cat.

Does this sound about right?

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

That sounds about right at the moment.

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

Hello Nighthawk and EO crew! It's me Honzie, Doomgaze. Came back to check up on everyone and see how the game was doing. I'm very impressed and happy/excited to see the new stuffs! AFter seeing these changes to Druids and stats I have become a bit worried. I see that the MR penalty has changed again and morphing/stats have changed.

My question is: since the nerfing of wisdom and druids and limitation of viable races(rip gnome ) have you also reverted the dodge penalty to base form as well?

My question is: since the nerfing of wisdom and druids and limitation of viable races(rip gnome ) have you also reverted the dodge penalty to base form as well?

### Re: Druid morph formulas (post 1.6.3.0)

There is no dodge penalty.

And they aren't meant to be good against casters. 8)

And they aren't meant to be good against casters. 8)

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