JadeFalcon wrote:Trying to sort this out. Its a bit of a draft, so if anyone points out anything, ill change
Enchanters:
Strong points:
Natural AGI
Death Mages:
Strong points:
Natural AGI
Slayers (High MR races)
Natural AGI
Cavaliers (High MR races)
Weak Points:
Lower natural AGI
Brigands (High MR races)
Weak Points:
Inferior to Low MR Races in comparable rogue/fighter classes
Lower natural AGI
What are you talking about with this natural agi stuff?
So the focus isn't on AGI, so what? +1 that strength and move on.
I'm tired of people thinking 23-24 agility gonna make them a god, it ain't gonna save you! 2% one way or the other is meaningless.
Max out your race's natural agility and move on! Not all races are going to be equal, everything has its niche
If agi is meaningless then why even bother maxing it
. Oh, because it's by definition not meaningless...
You can argue its underwhelming compared to points in str or end (mathematically it isn't) but that seems to be the general consensus no matter the math. As Folder mentioned the real problem is that lower end classes (ling, gnome, elf, drow) have trouble surviving in group fights. You can help this with a slight buff to Agi (2 --> 2.5 seems very reasonable and has been proposed). However the easy way to balance this is to simply buff/nerf the natural bonuses of the races without touching the stats unless needed. You could give the least popular classes reasonable buffs- for example (just spitballing) giving lings and gnomes a 4% dodge buff (just like monks get but less than their 7.5%) You could throw +4 ac to Gobby's and remove the +4 ac from dwarves.
You can't really balance races by tweaking stats and I'd imagine the community would be much less happy about tweaking the races stats rather than adding or removing racial mods.
Edit: Folder why would you say Elder's are bad in group fights? They usually have solid hp (except gnomes/elf), incredible MR, high dodge and hitrates, and strong damage. Sure Zerkers, Ninjas, and Slayers will have more deeps but they all have major weaknesses that makes them easy targets to focus down first.