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I am thinking up what I should do with Knights/Cavaliers. Their taunt is really powerful, as it makes most npcs focus on them PLUS reduces damage. This is GREAT for PVE, and in PVP the damage negation is still useful. They will be sought out I feel once we actually have proper OADs to make use. It makes it alot less stressful for healers to not focus on everyone and focus on a set player for sure.

I propose one or more of the following could be added.

Stances. Three basic stances. Aggressive, Defensive, Tactical. Aggressive would give 5% more damage and -1 AGI. Defensive would give +5AC and -5% less damage. Tactical would give +1 AGI and -5AC. Something like that. 5% is a good amount at higher levels in any case. You can also neutral stance, which nullifies all stances. That's really it to this.

If stances aren't a good idea, another skill could be a thing. Shield bash. It obviously requires the knight having a shield. After an attack against the Knight, there may be a retaliation attack against the target dealing 50% sword damage, automatically. The chance to retaliate would be based on the shield AC level only. (1AC = 1.5%?) I don't want this to be another 'zerker rage thing' so I wanted it to be a little different.

Lastly, two handed swords. Two handed swords are a thing but not in game. They will be 10% more stronger then 1 handed weapons, but only knights can use two handed swords. I intend on two handed swords having some uniqueness to them by having a script attached to them. For example, a sword that might have a 15% chance of deal an additional 50 lightning damage could be a thing.

I like the idea of a passive retaliation attack the most. It needs to be a low chance though so people don't feel like it's always better to use a shield instead of a 2h weapon, and it should do less than 50% weapon damage. It shouldn't be a huge dps increase, unless you're planning on reducing their damage output overall to compensate.

2h swords are neat, I thought maybe barbs could use them as well though?

Folder wrote:I like the idea of a passive retaliation attack the most. It needs to be a low chance though so people don't feel like it's always better to use a shield instead of a 2h weapon, and it should do less than 50% weapon damage. It shouldn't be a huge dps increase, unless you're planning on reducing their damage output overall to compensate.

2h swords are neat, I thought maybe barbs could use them as well though?

Yeah, but barbs have such high damage output I might not let them since they can dual wield now. I don't know just yet, maybe allow them.

Ah right I forgot they can DW, that's fair then.

sounds pretty cool to me but not a huge impact? i guess i dont know the math behind everything but i think doubled of what you said might make more of an impact

Personally the only reason I rolled a barb was to use 2h axes since in my head that would be the coolest. I can't go back now!

If this was to happen wouldnt is be better to base the damage on the shield size (ie. its protection value)?
I like the stances idea TBH. A lot of games have this, maybe open for all classes though (and give the cav's the shield bash when in a stance)?

Chris, just as a double-check, please: 2hand swords will be Knight/Cavalier only?
Barbs/Zerkers wont be able to use it?

In the class thread both barbs and knights are marked as users of 2h weaps, btw:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=172

Trento wrote:Chris, just as a double-check, please: 2hand swords will be Knight/Cavalier only?
Barbs/Zerkers wont be able to use it?

In the class thread both barbs and knights are marked as users of 2h weaps, btw:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=172

Yeah it was a mistake here. They can use them, my bad. The damage output between a two handed and dual wielding will be around the same, but 2 handers going to be more rare/may contain fun shit while it'll be easy to get two basic swords to DW.

NiteHawk wrote:

Trento wrote:Chris, just as a double-check, please: 2hand swords will be Knight/Cavalier only?
Barbs/Zerkers wont be able to use it?

In the class thread both barbs and knights are marked as users of 2h weaps, btw:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=172

Yeah it was a mistake here. They can use them, my bad. The damage output between a two handed and dual wielding will be around the same, but 2 handers going to be more rare/may contain fun shit while it'll be easy to get two basic swords to DW.

Alright... since barbs can do it too, I will keep mine.. haha.
In my case particularly, I made the barb for that very purpose - hold two-hand swords.

Thank you and cheers,