Druid/Elder Druid

Aieron
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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby Aieron » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:56 pm

With the changes to morph, bear form no longer naturally gets the benefit of their bonus hp because the heal from morph was removed.

IE:
Before morph - 1014/1014
After morph - 1014/1230


Adding the heal back for bears would be pretty imbalanced, but is it possible that if you're max hp already you go to the new bear max?

IE:
Full HP morph - 1014/1014 then bear = 1230/1230
Not full HP morph 900/1014 then bear = 900/1230.

My thought is that this makes bear okay in dueling situations without needing to pot/heal to full hp before every fight. It may not be worth the effort though. I'm fine just using a single potion lol.

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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby NiteHawk » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:03 pm

Aieron wrote:With the changes to morph, bear form no longer naturally gets the benefit of their bonus hp because the heal from morph was removed.

IE:
Before morph - 1014/1014
After morph - 1014/1230


Adding the heal back for bears would be pretty imbalanced, but is it possible that if you're max hp already you go to the new bear max?

IE:
Full HP morph - 1014/1014 then bear = 1230/1230
Not full HP morph 900/1014 then bear = 900/1230.

My thought is that this makes bear okay in dueling situations without needing to pot/heal to full hp before every fight. It may not be worth the effort though. I'm fine just using a single potion lol.



Why not just base it off percentage?

If you are 50% then you'll have 50% in bear form. If you are 100%, then your bear is 100%. this means the faster you choose bear, the more overall HP you will get. I think it's pretty fair that way too.

I.E.

1014/1014 on morph is 1230/1230
900/1014 on morph is 1082/1230, 88%

etc

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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby Aieron » Tue Aug 02, 2016 3:07 pm

Yeah that'd work too!

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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby Bron » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:30 pm

Few Elders I made today with the new stats with the help of the instant 25 quest.

(Str, Agi, End, Int, WIs, Chr, Armor, Health, Mana)

Dwarf
20 19 23 13 20 10 42 1275 500
Cat 40 21 23 13 20 10 74 1275 500
Bear 35 20 27 13 24 10 94 1575 600

Dwarf
20 20 23 10 18 10 42 1275 450
Cat 38 21 23 10 18 10 70 1275 450
Bear 33 21 26 10 21 10 90 1500 525

Saurian
22 22 19 14 14 11 44 989 350
Cat 36 23 19 14 14 11 66 989 350
Bear 32 23 21 14 16 11 86 1139 400

Saurian
22 22 19 10 15 10 44 975 375
Cat 37 23 19 10 15 10 68 975 375
Bear 33 23 21 10 17 10 88 1125 425

Gnome
16 21 17 13 23 12 40 836 589
Cat 39 24 17 13 23 12 76 836 589
Bear 33 23 22 13 28 12 96 1211 714

Dark Elf
20 22 18 15 20 10 40 900 500
Cat 40 24 18 15 20 10 42 900 500
Bear 35 23 22 15 24 10 92 1200 600

Edit: Although somewhere I thought it was mentioned that 18 - 22 Wisdom would mean a cat morph of +2 Agi, this doesn't seem to be the case though as my dwarf with 18 Wis and 20 Agi, only got +1 Agi.

Edit 2: My Gnome Elder was made a few days ago, had extra stat points, remade and updated the post.
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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby Folder » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:31 pm

Druids are in a pretty awesome place right now I think. All these are viable in the right situation, I think all races are with the possible exception of half orc.
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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby daedroth » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:24 am

Folder wrote:Druids are in a pretty awesome place right now I think. All these are viable in the right situation, I think all races are with the possible exception of half orc.


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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby Mujahideen » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:33 am

After doing a bit of testing, I have come to the conclusion that haste is the spell that gives elders the edge over other classes pvp...

So I think something needs to happen in order to keep everyone from playing druids 100% of the time. Maybe haste should consume mana just like morph does? But at a higher rate.

Elders should be an expensive class to use since they are pretty good, IMO.
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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby NiteHawk » Sun Oct 02, 2016 1:58 pm

Mujahideen wrote:After doing a bit of testing, I have come to the conclusion that haste is the spell that gives elders the edge over other classes pvp...

So I think something needs to happen in order to keep everyone from playing druids 100% of the time. Maybe haste should consume mana just like morph does? But at a higher rate.

Elders should be an expensive class to use since they are pretty good, IMO.


They are certainly better overall. Their haste was lowered to one second though now rather then two. They also have a 5% agi overall debuff (-1 agi typically). i need to test them harder and with a few classes though. Maybe haste is just too much for them an it could go to another class, I.E. bards. But not sure on that really.

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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby Mujahideen » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:05 am

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Re: Druid/Elder Druid

Postby ex0 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:31 pm

How does int effect druids and their spells?
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