Change saurian race to drakeblood?

[Satsujin]

I voted yes but I am also in the camp "Why not add this as well?"

Because there's nothing resembling dinosaurs in the world I forked to create Ember's lore. Drakebloods are functionally the same, the only thing that changes is their immediate association is dragons instead of dinosaurs.

Saurians always came across more lizardman than dinosaur to me. Part of the lore is that our world was magically teleported to this plane from the old world so how would we explain the extinction of Saurians?

Saurians weren't a thing on the old world, as the old world was not Syndar. :/

[NiteHawk]

Strength=21
Intelligence=12
Agility=22
Endurance=20
Wisdom=12
Charisma=20
?

Or

Strength=21
Intelligence=12
Agility=22
Endurance=21
Wisdom=12
Charisma=20

or 16-19 char too. dunno.

[Kruell]

I think 20 end would work best. I don't know how much each point of charisma changes things. If someone makes a Drakeblood Ranger for instance, how would 16 charisma work in comparison to 20. They will get extra health from high charisma as well as a more effective taunt if knights. I'm fine with 20 chr but since I haven't tested rangers and am still working on knight I don't have a good reference point.

In comparing them with Gnome, 20 charisma would be good. The breakdown of charisma through the races makes me think 20 should be the absolute max they can obtain. Since people can give them a +1, maybe their regular charisma should be 19. Just explaining my reasoning here. I'd go with:

Strength=21
Intelligence=12
Agility=22
Endurance=20
Wisdom=12
Charisma=19

Let them keep the bonus to base armor. Once we have them in we can work out their balance but this seems to be a good start

[Drasp]

Hm. That is good enough for me to still force the class into a barbarian. I'm content.

[Lateralus]

I think if you are only going to give them 20 end instead of 21 end you need to make it 20 chr so they can get the extra bonus 50hp on avg.

[daedroth]

I dont suppose saurians could be kept as a seperate race then?

[NiteHawk]

I dont suppose saurians could be kept as a seperate race then?

I'm thinking they will be. Mainly that's why I'm throwing out a new race of stats. Maybe the saurians can be renamed to something else though that might fit more lorey reasons but if 50% want it, it's a bit high to get rid of them and maybe we can work around it.

20end/20chr seems fine because of points. They'll get 102 points, so they can 'just' get it without +1'ing or sacrifice their charisma to +1 or add the minor amounts. They'll have to remove a end, agi, or str point to get 20 charisma though. I think it keeps them balanced and in line.

With 19 chr they can't really +1 it without losing a ton of str/end/agi and then if I give them alot of points they'll have 6 stat characters since there int/wis is so low


Strength=21
Intelligence=12
Agility=22
Endurance=20
Wisdom=12
Charisma=20
Stats=102

infra=true
baseArmor=4
SpellResistModifier=1.00 aka 100%, no bonus.

[NiteHawk]

Saurians now. Is this fine as well or should they lose -1 ac, or +1 to drakes, etc.

Strength=22
Intelligence=14
Agility=22
Endurance=19
Wisdom=14
Charisma=14

baseArmor=4
SpellResistModifier=1.03 (3%, 1% more now)

[daedroth]

Seems fine to me (stats).
The saury name change... i dont think its needed, dinosaurs are just big reptiles really... eh if the name is changed; how does Reptiliods sound?
I think saurians is fine though.

[Rodeo]

I think we are going with other Darian and drakebloods.

New race ftw